Comments: In which My Life Becomes Dull Beyond Your Wildest Imaginings

Y'know, I despise "nazis" of any sort. This is the rather inappropriate term that my buddies and I use for people who just are a little too psychotic about everyone else doing the way they insist upon. There's something about childbirth and rearing that seems to produce a large number of these people: There are the natural childbirth nazis, the Lamaze nazis, the breastfeeding nazis, the "well, I did it THIS way, so obviously it's the best way" nazis, etc. You can't be different, you can only be in line or WRONG.

On another note, let's hear a cheer for revision! YAY Revision!!!

Posted by Kestralyn at August 4, 2006 9:57 AM

"Maybe if I extend this surgery metaphor a LEETLE bit farther, it will get so gross I actually throw up in my mouth."
-- had you extended it one word farther, *I* would have thrown up in *my* mouth.

Good luck with the revisions -- gotta say, the image of you squatting in front of your laptop and cackling fills me with glee, because I know at the end of it there'll be another book for me to read.

I totally agree re: reality tv in general (UGH!) and Project Runway in particular. There's very little on tv that interests me right now -- except Deadwood -- and I spent the whole week just salivating waiting for the next episode of PR.

Posted by Aimee at August 4, 2006 10:25 AM

OMG OMG OMG... that is horrible. Can I just say this? I am a student "Childbirth Educator" so I have watched all the births, I've been a volunteer birth companion in my town for single moms and immigrant women who don't have a partner. I've seen every angle... lots of 'stuff'...and I LOVE talking about birth.

But HELLOOOO... it makes some people uncomfortable and so I do not put it IN THEIR FACE if they are blanching when I say the word 'perineum' or 'birth canal'...

I'm giving birth with midwives in... oh, any day now (my due date was yesterday!!) and I was worried that I'd gone from uber-medical doctors to birth nazis... but I haven't. My midwives are so NORMAL and ACCEPTING and I LOVE them. That's the way that I want to be when I teach birth classes. It's not about what I want to impart to YOU... it's about what you want from the class.

I attended some classes with my husband in July, this is his first and my second child and I wanted him to learn about the whole 'thing'... and we had the most amazing educator... she was the very same educator from my first classes five years ago! It's all about making the class feel comfortable, empowering the couples with knowledge, not freaking them out with horrible videos. Yes, we watched a couple. But she clearly said that if anyone wanted to leave, they could.

Oh your tropical fish eye woman makes me so mad. I have MY beliefs. I may even harbour some nazi-ish birth beliefs FOR MY OWN BODY and I have my own prejudices to deal with when I speak with other mothers... but as Kestralyn pointed out, there are THOSE PEOPLE out there... I do not want to be one of them.

(Oh and at the beginning of my little fascination with birth, I'm sure I was one of them for a while!)

Anyways... moving on...

YAY for revisions!!

Posted by Heather Cook at August 4, 2006 11:06 AM

I'm with you on reality TV. Ugh. If I wanted to watch real people behaving like jerks, I'd go back to having an office job. But I haven't seen Project Runway because my stupid cable system doesn't carry Bravo except on the super-special, ultra-expensive digital package with 100 other channels I have no interest in watching. But they traded Bravo for the Sci Fi Channel, so I am at peace with missing Project Runway as long as I have access to Battlestar Galactica, the Stargates and Dr. Who.

Posted by Shanna Swendson at August 4, 2006 11:18 AM

OMG - I agree about Project Runway. I almost did a naked jig when Tim Gunn told Keith he would need to pack his bags and leave that night. YEAH!!!! There was just something too slimy about him. I love Uli and I'm kind of hoping to see Laura in the finale too. Michael is so funny. I love that he is a Georgia Boy so I'm rooting for him.

Posted by Kristi Peavy at August 4, 2006 11:27 AM

And here I thought I was the only one who loathed reality TV for the same reasons you listed. To date, I've never seen an entire episode of any of those shows. But maybe I should give Project Runway a try.

Oh, and you're right about how you don't 'see' near as much giving birth yourself as you do watching one of those awful films. Unless, of course, you request the "special mirror," which I never did.

Posted by Melessa at August 4, 2006 12:02 PM

Krestralyn is totally right about the Nazi term, but I warn her from experience the term always pisses someone off.

I blush and turn my head when someone kisses on screen. I sure as heck don't want to watch a woman give birth. Like you pointed out its personal and damn really embarassing. (amazing that a former slut could be such a prud, but I am.)

Heather congrats in advance have a healthy baby.

And Joss, one last thought, you were too kind and responsible to do so, but you should have warned her that her eyes were about to swim off.

I enjoy reality TV, Big Brother is a great lesson in psychology. But it is Rock Star SUPERNOVA that I am enjoying right now.

Posted by Cele at August 4, 2006 12:08 PM

Love, love Project Runway! Anything that shows people that have a genuine talent that I couldn't dream of having fascinates me. And if you love Tim, you MUST MUST listen to his podcast after each show, which you can do directly at or download to your player. Tim is just so very wonderful.
Speaking of talents I will never have, can't sympathize w/ the revisions thing, but yay for you anyway.

Posted by carolie at August 4, 2006 12:34 PM

You know what I got from this post? You won't be accepting my phone calls. I'm going off to pout now. Because it's all about me.

Oh, and's a little bit about Heather, because of the whole giving-birth-any-minute thing...Good luck on the birth and congrats on that brand new little person! And forgive me for saying, girl - better you than me. ;)

Posted by Amy-Go at August 4, 2006 2:08 PM

Maybe you should put in some paws, whiskers, tail, fur and the like.

Posted by Miss China Paws at August 4, 2006 2:54 PM

Joshilyn- you can go see the outfit that won last night at OUR MACY'S at Lenox Mall (one of 7 in the nation to feature it). Or you could, if you weren't buried under Tog. I will go see it for the both of us:)

Posted by Chris at August 4, 2006 3:13 PM

Oh my goodness. EVERY CLASS? That is so much overkill and that woman... did you report her? Gah!

Posted by Heather at August 4, 2006 4:16 PM

OMIGOD... that is awful. Funny story though! (We had a GREAT childbirth educator... funniest damn woman I think I've ever met in my life, other than Jill Conner Browne.)

Oh, but I love Project Runway too, but unfortunately I have to wait for it to come on NBC the following Monday because my stupid bassackward cable system doesn't carry Bravo or anything interesting to women (other than Lifetime) because they have to carry 15 different fishing and outdoor life-type channels. (Yeah, I'm pissed.)

Posted by jenn (from park road books with the cute little boy) at August 4, 2006 6:36 PM

I'm all about me some Project Runway! What about the dude who sent this model down the runway with a basket with chains on her head. Oh, yeah, it's good...

Sorry you're in the writer dugout for a time, but hang in there. We'll talk at you around Thanksgiving?

Posted by Waylon at August 4, 2006 8:29 PM

A couple years ago I wrote a piece where I said that sitting through those childbirth videos made me feel like I was undergoing court-ordered aversion therapy for a pornography addiction. Which is true but it also means that my name shows up in your Google results for "porn addiction."

Didn't really think that one through.

Posted by Kevin Guilfoile at August 4, 2006 9:53 PM

Brith videos? I'm a doula (labor/delivery assistant) and unless someone really wants to watch those, I generally advise against it. I mean, you can see it all on the Baby show if you want. To force it on someone that doesn't want to see it borders on cruiminal. GOOD FOR YOU, for not going back. I would also have reported her.

Just had to gush that my friend Charity posted an amazing review of BETWEEN over on our duel book review blog. You can check it out here.

Like a few others, I totally don't get reality tv. Of any kind. Then again, I'm not real big on tv at all. If I have any spare time, my nose is in a book.

Posted by dee at August 5, 2006 2:45 PM

Those reality shows have writers. If one of those writers gets a book published I wonder if that information would be touted on the cover or if a talk show host would use it in their introduction. Hard choices there.

Posted by Gillian at August 11, 2006 3:37 AM