Comments: Pretty Prizes Yesterday, Pretty Prizes Tomorrow, but Never...etc

*Squee!* A contest! Ooh, how my little heart hopes and hopes that maybe, just maybe, I might have a chance.
And on the wanker topic, my vote is no, you are not a wanker at all. It just doesn't seem...polite to sell ARCs in that fashion. Do these people not have any home training? Aside from all the business implications, which I think are obvious, it just seems like good old-fashioned bad manners.
And that's what I think about that. Happy Thursday, everyone!

Posted by MelissaC at May 18, 2006 7:14 AM

When I worked for a book store no one else ever took the ARC's. I loved the things. I still have a small collection of them - all cracked and read at least once. I had no idea people SOLD the things. That seems a bit like... I don't know, selling a book without it's cover!

Posted by Autumn at May 18, 2006 9:06 AM

as I hang my head very low. I admit I buy your ARC's, because dang it, God knows I have tryed to wait til your books come out. BUT I CAN NOT, CAN NOT. I'm consumed with getting it now, now, now. The ones I have bought, the seller always read them, and could not say enough "good stuff" about
them, and dutifully turned in their comments to editors, ect. But if it makes it any better & you forgive me, I buy my mama the REAL ones & never but never let her know I have an ARC. cause she would kill me and take it from me.
I just love you Joshilyn, (I'm weeping now)and must read your books when I know they are lurking out there in ARC form, in need of a loving home.

Posted by desi at May 18, 2006 9:33 AM

1. Of course you're right about the whole Selling of Unread ARCs. If the people who are getting them don't want to write a review they should say so and let those books go to someone who WILL write a review, dammit. That's the sort of thing that will eventually lead to publishers not wanting to do those expensive little print runs at all. There's always a few who have to spoil it for everyone.

2. I've never bought, (or won!) and ARC, but FWIW, if I DID have one, I'd buy a real copy of the book too when it came out. I'd want the good cover and the good paper and stuff. But I know not everyone feels that way. (I've pre-ordered "Between..." from A.B. Yay!)

3. Can't wait to see what the contest is. I looooves me some contests!

Posted by DebR at May 18, 2006 9:59 AM

Oh, you. I have met wankers. I have worked with wankers. I'm working with one RIGHT NOW! And you, my pretty, are no wanker. Not even close. I completely understand you minding. I'd mind, too. And I promise that if I win the ARC, I will buy the book anyway.

Posted by Aimee at May 18, 2006 11:06 AM

Galleys, we called them in the bookstore. I think I still have one, Barbara Kingsolver's Prodigal Summer.

I think publishers should not send ARC's to accounts that have allowed them to be sold. I believe independent bookstores protect their galleys a little better than the behemoths.

If you think books are a problem, though, you should count how many promo CD's are up for sale out there.

I've sold galleys to used bookstores, a few times for substantial change. I still sell promo CD's to used record stores, but that's pretty much all I own (it was a book & record store, I was a record buyer).

Me, I'm just waiting for the pb of giA... And I'm your worst nightmare, anyway... I will reserve my copy of Between at the LIBRARY!!! And if I LOVE it I'll buy it in pb, eventually. Oh, and don't forget to LISTEN to the audiobook, right?

Posted by dynagirl at May 18, 2006 11:35 AM

You ARE SO not my worst nightmare...People like you make library journal (in their utterly delightful review of BETWEEN) say things like:

"Jackson's got a winner, and public libraries will definitely need multiple copies."

Do you KNOW how many libraries there are here in America? For the love of ALL THAT IS HOLY, support your local library. They have been SO good to me, from here in the now when they bought my books, to the misty past when I was sprout who moved to a new city every year. My mother would find the local library practically before she found a good grocery store. I might have to start fresh with no friends in a strange place, but Trixie Belden and Willy Wonka were always already there to meet me.

If I can POSSIBLY work it into my schedule, I speak whenever libraries ask me, and I wave my speaking fee or reduce it to pretty much cover my travel. Libraries and opposable thumbs are what separates us from the hamsters, Well, that and the not eating the heads off of our babies if we get upset. Most times we don't anyway.

Now of course, if you ask me would I would RATHER you bought your very own hardback first edition? Why, yes, yes I would. Note the yellow button under the tiny cover of Between to your left. I would RATHER everyone living in America pressed that button, and if half of Europe wants to as well, excellent. Let's see what we can do to get Asia on board next. AND I think you would find that the purchase would make you a better person and able to eat more chocolate without it going to your thighs and also you would probably become spiritually fulfilled and able, for the first time, to crane out the tip of your tongue and taste the far corner of Nirvana. Perhaps I am overstating. A TINY BIT.

But, barring that life affirming first edition buying in the first week of release hardback experience, you say you will reserve it at your library AND, if you love it, buy the PB? AND you are getting the PB of gIA? You are my beautiful angelic darling, and I will kick the buttocks of any who dares call you a nightmare. SO THERE.

Posted by joshilyn at May 18, 2006 11:58 AM

I feel so stupid...but now enlightened. I had wondered how Amazon had used copies before the release. It would boggle my mind, but I patiently waited because I wanted to crack the spine (that sounds so ghastly) but I am like that new books are pure, proprietary delights.

OOOH but a new contest, be still my heart :)

Posted by Cele at May 18, 2006 12:04 PM

Completely off the subject, but I walked into the room the other day and heard the guest on NPR's Fresh Air talking and I swear I heard him say '....like gods in Alabama, you don't expect your god to have a southern accent'
Did I hear that? I am going on the website now and see if that is indeed what I heard.

P.S. I love ARCs. I have a friend who works at a book shop who brings them to me and then I donate them to the book shelf at work. Unless it is something I can't part with and love to death and will run out and buy the book too when it comes out....then I keep it. :)


~K!


Posted by Kismet at May 18, 2006 12:07 PM

Hangs her head, wank, wank, wank...I did it...I confess...I bought an ARC off ebay for gIA. I couldn't wait. I couldn't, I needed to see it, hold it and breath it in, because you brought it to life...You created the addiction...it's YOUR Fault...but, I also bought 10 first editions, which your pretty self signed when you were here and gave them to my friends as gifts for Christmas and New Years, and Ground Hog day, and natal days, so am I forgiven????? That's why your not coming isn't it...because I bought that damn ARC. LOL. I know, it's not up to you. I will be pressing the button on Thursday to get my copy though..and I will try to resist the ebay ARC god and not give into the addiction again....hands shaking....trembling...I can resist..I can resist....

Posted by Gabi at May 18, 2006 1:45 PM

Okay, I confess. I, too, am an ARC snarfer/collector. But I DO buy the hardcovers, too! Truly! (I'm at 300+ and still climbing.) Often, I buy more than one copy so I can give them to reader friends I know will like them. Also, I'm too impatient to wait for the PB version of anything if the HC is already out. But even the PB's I've bought new tend to look unread. I'm a very gentle reader and I almost never crack the spines, even if I'm known to smudge the edges of the pages a little now and then. So, am I still pretty? *makes pitiful puppy dog eyes*

Posted by David at May 18, 2006 1:53 PM

I'm pretty much opposed to the selling of any variety of virgin, with the possible exception of olive oil.

And I hate the thought that I might be deprived of a chance to learn about a great new book because a reviewer never got to see it. So, no, I don't think you're even a regular wanker.

Posted by Becki at May 18, 2006 3:02 PM

Not. A. Wanker. ;)

Posted by Amy-GO at May 18, 2006 5:52 PM

Not a wanker at all! Of course, I am a bookseller, and I DO have "Between, Georgia" and I HAVE read it and I just ate it with a sterling silver spoon.

And then I got REALLY lucky and got my hands on a galley of "Water for Elephants" which made my teeth hurt it was so good (thanks for the recommendation when you were here, you PANK THANG).

It is now flying off the shelves at the store at a rate that will only be beat by "B,G."

Which I will not turn aloose for love nor money.

Posted by Eleanor at May 18, 2006 9:48 PM

You are not CURRENTLY a wanker, but if you do not tell about the gerbils soon I may resort to calling you that.

Also I am SAD SAD SAD I missed you this evening... WHEN will you arrange your life around MY schedule? Hmph. I hope you are currently getting drunk with your writing group. ;)

Posted by Mir at May 18, 2006 9:54 PM

I bid on one of my own ARCs on Ebay, and then when I won the auction, realized I didn't have $11 in my checking account to actually buy it.

Interpret THAT how you will...

Posted by Cornelia Read at May 18, 2006 10:09 PM

To set the record straight, I misheard. The NPR Fresh Air program had Billy Collins, former US Poet Lauret and current NY State Poet Lauret. What he actually said was relating to a conversation about whether poetry has an accent and he said (in effect) that the Southern preacher reading from the Bible '...makes it sound like God's from Alabama. You don't think of the Bible as having an accent.' Heavy sigh, I simply misheard it. If you want to mishear it yourself here is the link.


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5411340


~K!

Posted by Kismet at May 18, 2006 10:48 PM

As a bookseller, we get lots and lots of ARCs. As a specialty shop, we're sometimes puzzled when we get books that don't relate to us, but we shrug and put them on the shelf, or...truth to tell...give them to customers who A) might not have read this author; B) are wonderful and deserve a treat; or C) have been going through a rough patch and deserve a gift. However, for some ARCs, well, we squabble. Sometimes threats involving plastic utensils occur.

And we hoard ARCs too! When Cornelia and Laurie come in to sign next month, ARCs will be presented for signatures, and then will be lovingly squirreled away in private collections. There will be MUCH squabbling over Cornelia's, since I don't think we were lucky enough to score three of them, and we all want one, but no one dares cross my path about Laurie's.

....never got a signed "gods" or "Between" ARC...(insert deep, pathetic, soulful sigh here) but I can't comoplain, since we got to read an early draft, so we got to review and talk it up. And we'll have Signed First Editions, both for our own covetousness and to sell, and that will do nicely! And thank you so much, Peach, for keeping us supplied!

Posted by Fran at May 18, 2006 11:02 PM

For the love of PETE! Will you people please stop playing chiropractor with your books?! You can "ease" a spine instead of "cracking" it, enjoy the text just as much, and get to keep that fine volume around to read again. and again. and again.

Thank you for your time,
one weary rare book librarian

Posted by Courtney S. Danforth at May 19, 2006 12:13 AM

God is not from Alabama! God is from Tennessee!

Posted by desi at May 19, 2006 9:46 PM

Hey...I am LOVING My ARC of Between! I have underlined beautiful lines and key things to remember when I do write my review (which I will definitely let you know when it's posted, ok?). So my copy is not up for grabs with the contest, although the contest idea is awesome.

I do not sell ARCs. I read them, review them, then either Bookcross them or donate them to my local library. Or keep them. Or give them to friends.

Posted by Pattie at May 22, 2006 5:53 PM